__PUBLISH__
Streaming with Infrafem
11:00-12:00
- - Varia introduction to this session; round of introductions of everyone present; discussion on questions and concepts
12:00-13:00
- - Clustering what we can do in the afternoon based on what we discussed and what we bring
13:00-14:00
14:00-16:00
- - Make diagrams
- - Share technical tools and manuals from our own groups
- - Share modes of organising
- - Formulate questions for the follow-up online stream and the radio guests
- - ...
We've prepared a list of questions that we would love to discuss together with you from the perspective of different media (filecasting, etherpad writing, audio broadcast). You can see them below:
- - How do you understand the concept of streaming?
- - How do you experience the concept of time in relation to streaming?
- - How do you experience the concept of simultaneity in relation to streaming?
- - Why we talk about simultaneity? What makes it fascinating?
- - What does simultaneous stream mean in technical terms regarding servers? Different servers 'talking' to each other? One server, one mountpoint and multiple clients? One server, multiple mountpoints and multiple clients (case of temporary riparian zone http://82.199.133.204/files/trz/ )?
- - How is simultaneity perceived by the listeners and the hosts, the clients and the servers?
- - How does bridging happening with listeners and radio hosts/contributors/clients?
- - How can a streaming be approached through feminist, intersectional and decolonial approaches, also in relation to time? Thinking together with the hardware, software, and other social aspects.
- - How can we rethink the making content and produce in relation to make the infrastructure and deprogramming radio (a community radio without program https://wavefarm.org/radio/wgxc/calendar/0jewa8)?
Cloud folder for public blog post
https://cloud.vvvvvvaria.org/s/reayXMXj6akcNxw
Puscii Liquidsoap files:
https://git.puscii.nl/sms/streaming-media-stuff/-/tree/a34a40ab1716418caf0999ecf69fec7d35680fe1/liquidsoap
LINKS
Temporary Riparian Zone
http://82.199.133.204/files/trz/ , https://hackersanddesigners.nl/s/Events/p/Temporary_Riparian_Zone
Narrowcast
https://stream.vvvvvvaria.org/
Cateradio
https://cr.puscii.nl/
https://git.puscii.nl/sms
GoodTimesBadTimes
https://goodtimesbadtimes.club/
Hackers & Designers
https://hackersanddesigners.nl/
Radio EE
https://radioee.net/
Lag
https://laglab.org/
NOTES
liquidsoap
web sockets
nextcloud
etherpad
icecast
filecasting
phonestreaming/ app to stream audio and video from phone
reduce latency / increase latency :)
sense of occasion; why people stream and make dinner at the same time
need/feeling of being present
live vs archive
code of conduct
http://varia.zone/en/pages/code-of-conduct.html
streaming in relation to archiving
archive episodes or not?
engagement to the moment
then it is like podcast
being live or not?
hard to engage people for this live moments
think about all these spaces and rooms
one ay stream but you also get this response but it is not that easy
collaborate with already existing platform
collete: I want an intimate space
how do you make broadcasting intimate?
negotiation of space
energy resource, quantify what is sustainable in specific time
conflict
allow these entaglements to happen
beauty and frustration
synchronicity with timezones
experience with radio ee and the 48h stream: different people from different groups in different timezones
the host had to think in different timezones
location
exquisite corpse radio
one streamer at a time, one snetence being shared at a time
different locatoin to stream for clients
fallback mount point
cache in radio, browser gets in the way
formats of audio/files to play in other software
vlc: surprise to be able to listen to live audio
there was a time that different hardware/phone would play soecific formats.
convert file formats
delay and layers of encoding/decoding
compression of sound
everything uses everything
listening to crappy radio
with the pad there is recording
liveness: being together instead of technical understanding
delete characters after a while?
metadata of the stream
icecast or liquidsoap streams the metadata live
web sockets: fast way to transfer data in real time
recently found out that websockets are what's used to collect behavioural data
Meta for example usue them to save information about user behaviour (where your cursor is etc)
but also Etherpads
privacy, case of etherpad, etherdump, etherpump
different languages/layers of access
updates in the etherpad as a form of broadcasting
communication around make things run
ghost or host
it is a service but we are not service providers
Karl: archiving live streams, do we archive also chat?
after break
radioee.net:
wifi holes, test the stream, mobile set up, where are these holes, urban infrastructure
experiment in language
simulataneity
many people in the same stream, from different ports stream in the same stream
experiment with a lag
tmux-- no delay
streaming from phone with qr code
jan kees <3
Round of wishes for the afternoon
- simultaneous streams, fallback streams - to use liquidsoap on top of icecast,
- multiple storytelling, whoopsies that happen, timelag, interhacking of different ideas and narrations that naturally happen and appear through whoopsies
- look inside the guts of radio streaming
- etherpad plugin that deletes words after a number of seconds
- - can an etherpad record sound?
- understanding the programming of the server of the multiplying ports within the server
- new names for streaming servers
- curious about hardware; making your own radio from a rock and from coils
- - connection between stone radio and internet radio
- a chatroom you can access from a specific point
- quantum internet https://www.tudelft.nl/over-tu-delft/strategie/vision-teams/quantum-internet-vision-team/what-is-quantum-internet + https://www.tudelft.nl/over-tu-delft/strategie/vision-teams/quantum-internet-vision-team
- computing within limits: textual streams
- experimenting with latencies
Dear CateRadio's
On Saturday there is a festival in ivicke, it would be great to meet up, and see eachother face to face and discuss what we want to do and why.
It would be great if people show up (at least for the get togethers) to give their input.
One of the things we want to do there is build up a test version (prototype) of the studio to work on / try out the cateradio setup we have build so far. So the goal of this is not so much to do a registration of the festival / do something for listeners, but more to have a space to meet / experiment.
The schedule so far (times and things are up for discussion, and depend when people have time, final shedule will be made friday night, check https://pad.puscii.nl/p/cr-schedule-festival):
# friday night
- building up the studio
- figuring out how things work
- have a meeting
- figure out the plan for saturday
- do a little test broadcast to see if things work
# saturday
13:00 doors of the studio open
14:00 get together / discussion
15:00 work on text for website / description of the project
16:00 walkthrough of technical setup
17:00 another meeting for people that are late
??:?? broadcast ??
Wrap up
kl and ccl got a bit lost in conversations
big simultaneous streaming group: looked at the structure of how to set up the server
priority
crunk was everywhere and nowhere at the same time
crystalradio.net
some stones have bigger transmission power than others
crystals interfere with radio